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Re: [cobalt-security] Might be off topic. Are computers with 168.192.x.x safe from Internet?



Hi James,
 
A single proxie system in front line will give you an average security. This avoid people to have a direct contact with your critical computer. Sure everything is not so simple, depending on how critical is your network, you may look forward for a good firewall/proxy that will fit your need.
 
On my end, I am simply a using a computer as proxie, so nothing is really saw from outside. If you dont attract attention, hacker wont take care of you. I have no point for them to waste their time on something that does not give them a bit of prestige. More often you will be targeted by a student or person with low skill.
 
What ever you do, If you become the main target of a true hacker, he will break in your system soon or later, You cannot have a 100% securoty seal, but you can surely bring this high enought to be able to sleep at night.
 
I dont know a lot about NT, you may want a security firm looking to your instalation, but all backup and security plan begin by the evalutation of the cost,  what you need and what you can affort to lose.
 
Stephen Gilbert
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Subject: AW: [cobalt-security] Might be off topic. Are computers with 168.192.x.x safe from Internet?

If you are using NT.. then you're not safe.
 
With only port 80 opened up, only a well configured content scanning FW can stop the elite. On www.summercon.org there was an interesting speach this saturday about these kind of hacks.
 
But then this all depends what you are hiding in the back-lan. The more interesting this looks from the outside, the more the challenge:)
 
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 MVG,
 Rob van Eijk
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Hi,
 
Sorry if this is somewhat of an off-topic for this list.  But I just couldn't think of any place else to get a quality answer as this list.
 
I have been keeping my office's internal LAN and web servers completely disconnected in order to be absolutely sure that internal LAN segments are safe from hacking or cracking attempts. (The network cables physically do not connect between these two segments.)  This worked great from security perspective. 
 
Due to obvious drawbacks with this set up, I am now attempting to patch a line between the router to the multi-port switch serving the NT 4 based internal LAN.  Of course all internal machines will only be assigned the private network IPs starting with 168.192.  I am hoping that the machines with private network IPs will be completely inaccessible from outside.  My big question is:  Is this that simple?  Or am I missing something?  Can someone access a Internet-connected machine such as web or ftp server THEN somehow reach into internal machines using some type of Windows share?
 
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks all in advance. 
 
James Kim