AW: AW: [cobalt-security] Unofficial PHP 4.1.2 PKG available

["Andres Petralli" <a.petralli@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff, I wont apologyze for a first-time mistake!

I see that including that register_me function isn't not very common and
I will not include it in any future scripts, that's what I will do, but
again, I wont apologyze for this decision to do it in this first
release!

Either you are that tolerant, or you'll just have to live with it. My
intentions we're IMHO good, as I wanted to spare some time to other
admins that may have had the same trouble with PHP. I really had some
great feedback from other users who actually knew about the register_me
function but didn't bother as much like some few like you do! They
aknowledged the fact that the profit of installing that package is a
win. I'm not a spammer who will sell the e-mail address to anyone.
Either you trust me or you don't. If you don't honor that, it's really
your problem... 

Since I have been using lots of open-source and free tools from the web
I decided to give something back as I don't always want to be the
parasite that just consumes and never shares something with others. As
you now tell me to apologyze for that I really don't know wheter I'll be
willing to ever post any other software for public use, since it's damn
arrogant what you ask for! You'd better stfu!

Shame on you, 

Andres

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jeff Lasman [mailto:jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 08:28
> An: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: AW: [cobalt-security] Unofficial PHP 4.1.2 PKG available
> 
> 
> Andres Petralli wrote:
> 
> > Look, I compiled this FREE package for everyone to use, now the only
> > thing I do is tracking who used it. Do you think this is a privacy
> > violation?
> 
> Andres, I don't think it's a privacy violation, I KNOW it's a privacy
> violation.
> 
> It wouldn't be if you disclosed it before install in a manner that no
> one would miss.
> 
> But you didn't bother to tell us.
> 
> That makes your contribution quite suspect.
> 
> > I could ask money for it and not give the package to you
> > until you sign a contract and give me your full name, including your
> > birthday.
> 
> Maybe you should have; then we would have known you wanted the
> information.
> 
> > Is that a deal to you? Well, the only thing that is
> > interesting in that e-mail is the kind of hardware people 
> are using, and
> > this gives me an idea what kind of system I will expect 
> when I'm doing
> > more of those packages.
> 
> Then why didn't you tell us in advance?
> 
> > Your hostname, by the way, is public anyway as
> > everything is public on the web. And now tell me which 
> information in
> > this e-mail is sensitive to your privacy?!
> 
> That's good, Andres, first gather information directly from our
> computers without telling us, and then argue with us that it's okay.
> 
> That's a great way to make us feel comfortable with you.
> 
> Taking the admin email address alone, even if you'd done nothing else,
> is improper.  I don't give out my addresses unless I want to. 
>  Plain and
> simple.
> 
> Sorry, you made a mistake.  Until and unless we get a believable
> heartfelt apology we're going to have trouble believing in your good
> intentions.
> 
> Jeff
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