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Subject: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1155 - 16 msgs
From: "Dean Wolf" <deanw@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:33:39 -0600
List-id: Mailing list for users to address network security on Cobalt products. <cobalt-security.list.cobalt.com>
Thanks Guys!!

Dean

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: OpenSSH-3.5p1-1 from Solarspeed, Vol 1 #1153 - 3 msgs (Michael
Stauber)
   2. RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 6 msgs (Dean Wolf)
   3. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
       - 6 msgs (paul jacobs)
   4. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 6
       msgs (Gerald Waugh)
   5. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154  - 6
       msgs (Gerald Waugh)
   6. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
       - 6 msgs (paul jacobs)
   7. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154   - 6 msgs (Dave @ The
Hostworks)
   8. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
       - 6 msgs (paul jacobs)
   9. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154    - 6 msgs (Michael
Stauber)
  10. Re: RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
       - 6 msgs (paul jacobs)

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Message: 1
From: Michael Stauber <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: SOLARSPEED.NET
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] OpenSSH-3.5p1-1 from Solarspeed, Vol 1
#1153 - 3 msgs
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:05:33 +0200
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Dean,

> Installed OpenSSH-3.5p1-1 from www.solarspeed.net and the Start and Stop
in
> the GUI is gone.  Is there another way to start and stop SSH with out the
> Gui or is there a way to make it show up again!

That's the XTR package, right? Hmm ... ok, I'll check it out.

You can start and stop SSH from the command line:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop

--

With best regards,

Michael Stauber


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Message: 2
From: "Dean Wolf" <deanw@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:08:05 -0600
Subject: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 6 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Michael (anyone),

Installed OpenSSH-3.5p1-1 from www.solarspeed.net and the Start and Stop
in the GUI is gone.  Is there another way to start and stop SSH with out the
Gui or is there a way to make it show up again!

Cheers
Dean

Got response

ssh in:
su -
<root password>
/etc/init.d/ssh(d?) stop

It is /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop

What if you cannot SSH in?  This is really my question!

Thanks
Dean


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:21:11 -0700
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: paul jacobs <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
  - 6 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 12:08 PM 4/14/2003, you wrote:

>Michael (anyone),
>
>Installed OpenSSH-3.5p1-1 from www.solarspeed.net and the Start and Stop
>in the GUI is gone.  Is there another way to start and stop SSH with out
the
>Gui or is there a way to make it show up again!
>
>Cheers
>Dean
>
>Got response
>
>ssh in:
>su -
><root password>
>/etc/init.d/ssh(d?) stop
>
>It is /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop
>
>What if you cannot SSH in?  This is really my question!
>
>Thanks
>Dean

Reboot and all will be fine :)


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Best Regards,
Paul Jacobs /Sr. Network Manager
http://www.yourwebcentral.com


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:24:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Waugh <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 6
 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Dean Wolf wrote:

> ssh in:
> su -
> <root password>
> /etc/init.d/ssh(d?) stop
>
> It is /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd stop
>
> What if you cannot SSH in?  This is really my question!
>
Momentarily turn telnet on.
telnet in;
do the su - and start sshd
Also run
chkconfig sshd on
To be sure sshd will start on reboot.
Then get out and turn telnet off


Gerald
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:27:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Waugh <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154  - 6
 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, paul jacobs wrote:

> Reboot and all will be fine :)

  Obviously a M$ solution.
  rebooting should always be a 'last resort solution'
  What happens to people using your server when you reboot?
  Your webserver is 'gone' for a period!!!

Gerald
--
http://frontstreetnetworks.com | http://store.raqware.com
ICQ 229276628 | Phone: +1 203-785-0699 | FAX: +1 866-201-4625
Front Street Networks LLC,  229 Front Street, Ste. #C,
New Haven, CT. 06513-3203 United States of America


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:32:01 -0700
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: paul jacobs <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
  - 6 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 12:27 PM 4/14/2003, you wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, paul jacobs wrote:
>
> > Reboot and all will be fine :)
>
>   Obviously a M$ solution.

Yea, it's funny huh.

>   rebooting should always be a 'last resort solution'
>   What happens to people using your server when you reboot?

Gee, you should use a stable server OS then huh.

>   Your webserver is 'gone' for a period!!!

Life goes on.


>Gerald
>--
>http://frontstreetnetworks.com | http://store.raqware.com
>ICQ 229276628 | Phone: +1 203-785-0699 | FAX: +1 866-201-4625
>Front Street Networks LLC,  229 Front Street, Ste. #C,
>New Haven, CT. 06513-3203 United States of America
>
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Best Regards,
Paul Jacobs /Sr. Network Manager
http://www.yourwebcentral.com


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Message: 7
From: "Dave @ The Hostworks" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154   - 6
msgs
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:40:56 -0500
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ehh..

So Jacob, your saying if we ran IIS, and rebooted the machine, magicly
people would still be able to see webpages on that machine, while its
rebooting, cause its more stable..
LOL..

furthermore.. SSH being off makes it unstable?
Funny, that must me Windoze is unstable 100% of the time!


----- Original Message -----
From: "paul jacobs" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 6
msgs


> At 12:27 PM 4/14/2003, you wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, paul jacobs wrote:
> >
> > > Reboot and all will be fine :)
> >
> >   Obviously a M$ solution.
>
> Yea, it's funny huh.
>
> >   rebooting should always be a 'last resort solution'
> >   What happens to people using your server when you reboot?
>
> Gee, you should use a stable server OS then huh.
>
> >   Your webserver is 'gone' for a period!!!
>
> Life goes on.
>
>
> >Gerald
> >--
> >http://frontstreetnetworks.com | http://store.raqware.com
> >ICQ 229276628 | Phone: +1 203-785-0699 | FAX: +1 866-201-4625
> >Front Street Networks LLC,  229 Front Street, Ste. #C,
> >New Haven, CT. 06513-3203 United States of America
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >cobalt-security mailing list
> >cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-security
>
> Best Regards,
> Paul Jacobs /Sr. Network Manager
> http://www.yourwebcentral.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> cobalt-security mailing list
> cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-security
>



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:25:19 -0700
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: paul jacobs <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
   - 6 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 01:40 PM 4/14/2003, you wrote:

>Ehh..
>
>So Jacob, your saying if we ran IIS, and rebooted the machine, magicly
>people would still be able to see webpages on that machine, while its
>rebooting, cause its more stable..
>LOL..

No, but think what you want.



>furthermore.. SSH being off makes it unstable?

Yea, it's not the Os it is the 3rd party programs that make *nix unstable
(or so I have heard)

>Funny, that must me Windoze is unstable 100% of the time!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "paul jacobs" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 6
>msgs
>
>
> > At 12:27 PM 4/14/2003, you wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, paul jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reboot and all will be fine :)
> > >
> > >   Obviously a M$ solution.
> >
> > Yea, it's funny huh.
> >
> > >   rebooting should always be a 'last resort solution'
> > >   What happens to people using your server when you reboot?
> >
> > Gee, you should use a stable server OS then huh.
> >
> > >   Your webserver is 'gone' for a period!!!
> >
> > Life goes on.
> >
> >
> > >Gerald
> > >--
> > >http://frontstreetnetworks.com | http://store.raqware.com
> > >ICQ 229276628 | Phone: +1 203-785-0699 | FAX: +1 866-201-4625
> > >Front Street Networks LLC,  229 Front Street, Ste. #C,
> > >New Haven, CT. 06513-3203 United States of America
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >cobalt-security mailing list
> > >cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-security
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Paul Jacobs /Sr. Network Manager
> > http://www.yourwebcentral.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cobalt-security mailing list
> > cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-security
> >
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>cobalt-security mailing list
>cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-security

Best Regards,
Paul Jacobs /Sr. Network Manager
http://www.yourwebcentral.com


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Message: 9
From: Michael Stauber <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: SOLARSPEED.NET
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154    -
6 msgs
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 23:32:18 +0200
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Paul,

> Yea, it's not the Os it is the 3rd party programs that make *nix unstable
> (or so I have heard)

Define "third party" in regards to *nix ... when all distributors just
cobble
their stuff together from various open source reprositories. ;o)

--

With best regards,

Michael Stauber


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:41:19 -0700
To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: paul jacobs <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-security] RE: cobalt-security digest, Vol 1 #1154
    - 6 msgs
Reply-To: cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 02:32 PM 4/14/2003, you wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
> > Yea, it's not the Os it is the 3rd party programs that make *nix
unstable
> > (or so I have heard)
>
>Define "third party" in regards to *nix ... when all distributors just
cobble
>their stuff together from various open source reprositories. ;o)

hehehehehehehe, yep!, you got it right.


>--
>
>With best regards,
>
>Michael Stauber
>
>_______________________________________________
>cobalt-security mailing list
>cobalt-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-security

Best Regards,
Paul Jacobs /Sr. Network Manager
http://www.yourwebcentral.com



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