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Re: [cobalt-security] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists



If as you propose, these lists go away, then it is more imperative that the user community remain in contact to support each other. I would think that it would be better to propose moving these lists to Yahoo, and have them moderated by non-Sun personnel. That way the lists can continue, Sun does not have to be actively involved in list management (although I suspect most of us would LOVE to see you Sun Cobalt guys on the Yahoo list) and Cobalt will continue to have user forums to discuss problems/alternatives as these systems age too.

Doug Fuerst


At 01:12 PM 5/4/2004 -0700, you wrote:
Because the unplanned outage of the Cobalt lists this weekend seems to have caused another flurry of "what now?" emails, I guess it is time to address this issue for good.

I think that it is time for these lists to go away.  Several reasons for this:

1) RaQ 550, the last Sun Cobalt branded product, reached its End of Life in February 2004. Sun has committed to certain support guidelines as part of our EOSL policy, including maintaining the knowledgebase and Support Forums located at http://cobalt-forum.sun.com/forum/ for three full years.

2) I have had an ongoing problem with users of the lists demanding that I delete or modify their posts in the list archives. I have been unable to come up with an answer to those requests that satisfies the users, me, and the maintainers of Sun's Privacy Policy.

3) The system on which the lists are hosted is not getting any younger, and as many of you noticed this weekend is not very reliable. It is probably not going to be replaced -- see item #1 above. Virus and spam traffic into the server is also out of control and it would require significant effort to put decent filtering in place and then maintain the filters indefinitely.

My plan is to shut the cobalt-users, cobalt-security, and cobalt-developers lists down on Friday, May 14.

I am open to suggestions about other ways Sun can continue to support the Cobalt user community. One option already mentioned has been a Sun Cobalt area on the BigAdmin systems administration portal located at http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/. Mailing lists, unfortunately, are not a feature of BigAdmin, but I would like to hear the user community's feedback on the portal and will be glad to follow up with that team if there is an interest.

Please feel free to send me any comments or questions.  Thanks...

--
...Craig

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