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[cobalt-security] More Comments on the Lists
- Subject: [cobalt-security] More Comments on the Lists
 
- From: Craig Bernstein <cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
- Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 21:35:23 -0700
 
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
 
- List-id: Mailing list for users to address network security on Cobalt products. <cobalt-security.list.cobalt.com>
 
A couple thoughts...
I have had various offers to host/move/buy/archive the lists.  That is 
probably not going to happen -- I am sure you can understand the privacy 
issues involved in releasing 1,500 or so (on cobalt-users alone) email 
addresses to a third party without those users' permission.  All of those 
people get your messages and have the option to subscribe to any of the 
community-maintained lists that have already been mentioned.
I also can't give anyone "special" access to the archives or permission to 
mirror them.  They've been publicly available and mirrored for years now and I 
personally think that is great.  I have absolutely no idea what Sun's legal 
department would say about those mirrors if they ever became an issue.
To those people who feel slighted or abandoned by me or Sun, I apologize.  Sun 
does indeed care about its user and developer communities, and I invite all of 
you to participate in the many forums that we have available, i.e.:
http://cobalt-forum.sun.com/forum/
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/
http://developers.sun.com/
http://www.sunsource.net/
I know that many of you prefer mailing lists over web forums, but these lists 
are a holdover from the days of COBT and at some point it just makes sense to 
integrate them with the rest of the Sun community.  If your goal is to 
influence the future of Sun then I suspect that you will be heard more clearly 
when you participate in those supported and monitored forums anyway.
The bottom line is that it wasn't me or anyone at Cobalt or Sun that made this 
group so strong -- the value here is in you guys.  I am confident that if 
everyone will swallow their egos and stick together then the loss of the five 
year old Linux box that happens to host these lists will not destroy the 
community you have built over that time.
--
...Craig